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John Lyne's avatar

Oof the Stoics catching strays!

From my understanding of the Stoics, they don’t reject the integration of emotions, rather they emphasize emotional management.

And like in your 7th point, emotional management perhaps becomes easier when your desires are serving a larger good (eudaemonic) rather than a more concentrated (near-term, typically more selfish) pleasure (hedonic). They’d contend the hedonic route can leave you more vulnerable to being thrust about by emotion, since your emotions are only attached to one measly self, and one self is light and more likely to be carried about like a leaf to a gust of wind. High highs, low lows. Eudaemonic pursuits on the other hand are heavier and present a greater struggle, but are more grounding and fulfilling.

The last quote in the 7th point also reminds me of a quote by James Carse, which went something like: we can either spend time struggling with our mortality or accept that we struggle as mortals. More flourishing tends to be produced by the latter.

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Mike's avatar

I like how you contrasted these ideas with Stoicism. Any recommended books to learn more about this philosophy as a beginner?

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